Panhandle Blog

[HeadRanger]

Guess it's that time of the year again. I tried to keep the folks out in here updated on what we had going on, so here it is again. How time flies. We scrimmage tomorrow at Turpin along with Shamrock Texas. Good deal for us. We are going to play a Texas School in Texas, and so will Turpin, so we'll play by Texas rules. I guess this may be interesting becase the HC from Shamrock was here as a HC for a while. It's crazy having to teach your kids for a week to play with the cut rule and then have to go back to the OKlahoma rules. We have had some good practices so far, and the good thing is the SuperWalmart opened, so I guess we are big time. Heat is an issue and because we are always behind Gary England's head, you may not know how hot it gets. Interest is up, although we have a long way to go. We have to get better at going out and playing at a high level. We aren't world beaters, but can play well when everyone is on the same page. This is a brutal district. I can't comment on others because I don't coach in other districts, but I know what we have ahead of us. So I don't buy into the tougher district conversation. I know the champ is here and it has to go through BM. After this scrimmage we go to Mooreland. We have a unique situation in that there are no other large schools in our area, and with the price of gas it is hard to find a 4 or 5A school. That's it for now. If you want year 2 let me know. Don't want to bore anyone out there in web land.
Fogle -Guymon

[PawneeSports]

Thanks Coach Fogle...

Been reading the Guymon Herald online. I enjoyed your adversity article.

God bless you and family, coaching staff and the Panhandle!

[HeadRanger]

Just got back in from the land of the Cardinals. We did a three way with Turpin and Shamrock Tx. Not bad for our first time out. We Went from the 30 50 and 20 going in for 10 plays a piece. Defensively we flew around pretty good, and our starters never gave up a score. I was impressed with Turpins QB and RB. They were shifty and ran a up tempo offense. We had some problems getting lined up, but made some good plays. Offensively our starters scored just about every time. Our Qb had a nice day and our runners ran hard and had few bust. Both teams we scrimmaged gave us different looks so that was good for us since we see tons of different things. You find out that Class A schools can play, and they really don't care if you are a larger school. Overall I was pleased but after watching film I know we have a lot of work to do. Mooreland next week. I will try and give an update on that as well.
Fogle-Guymon

[DusterDad]

Thanks for the update Coach. I appreciate your input as to what's going on
with your team not to mention the insight on two of our district opponents, Turpin and Mooreland. Both will be much improved over last year.

We have a scrimmage with a Texas team next week and it always makes me nervous with the rule that they can block below the waist and Oklahoma can't. I trully believe our system is best as many times within the confines of the line, a chop block occurs and a kiddo loses his entire season because of not expecting such. We've had many situations where that has occurred. It's hard to find opponents for open dates and with Texas schools being so close, you have to take your chances I guess because an open date and not playing, is worse.

I laughed at your Gary England comment. :D It's like they don't know we exist, unless it's tax paying time or vote getting time. :spin:

[Mmgord77]

Thanks Coach! Please keep the updates coming when you get the chances. Always interesting.

[Falcon_LBs]

Wow, Guymon got a Super Wal-Mart. I know that is big up there. BTW I went to school up that way and we used to have to drive to Guymon to get something to eat after 9pm and even then we had to rush to do it. There is a pretty girl behind every tree up there so that is a plus... :)

[HeadRanger]

Not Only do we have a Super Walmart but Apple Bee's is on the way. You'd be shocked to see how much we are growing. Prob 5A at the next alignment meeting. As for the Texas deal, we played by those rules in the scrimmage. We had to have time in practice before to just feel what it was like to get cut. I actually like the NCAA rules, it makes running outside all the better. True, you worry about injury, but colleges do it and by us not, it puts our kids that go on to the next level at a disadvantage here in Oklahoma. Just a thought to throw out there for you guys in the Handle. Mendoza and I were talking about doing a jamboree for our second scrimmage, kind of like the City Previews. It's hard enough trying to find scrimmages without going 4 hours. Maybe do a Thur, Fri, Sat. Play one half and bracket it up with about 8 teams from the area. Let me know your thoughts.
Fogle-Guymon America

[Falcon_LBs]

Wow Coach that is getting big time!!! Wish they had that stuff there when I was up that way. All kidding aside, I really liked it up there, some of the nicest people in Oklahoma. Just got to get used to smell of the pig farms.

[HeadRanger]

What pig farms, I don't smell anything. LOL Your right this place has very friendly people and they work well with the program as far as support. I think they just needed a little bit of stability. I've always thought that Guymon had it's own built in advantages. If anything it's the location from other schools. When I was at Star, we hated coming out here. The trip alone takes coaching. We've got the altitude to deal with as well. I think we're like 3000 ft above sea level. Not mile high but pretty close. You should have seen our kids at Star's eye's when they got off the bus. It doesn't look like pat of Oklahoma to be honest. On the flip side, our kids throw in a DVD, watch 2 movies, and are ready to see the city, or as we call it down state. I'll have more infor after Friday. Go luck to you guys at Millwood by the way.
Fogle - The handle

[HeadRanger]

Sorry it took a few days to get this out. Game week and game planning has got the best of me. And since we still use an abacus to count plays it may take a while. We hitched up the horses and rode out to Mooreland. This was a very good group of players. They gave us a lot of different things to adjust to on defense. Their TE is a huge kid. Overall I think we did OK. Gotta work on running to the ball defensively, and seeing formations. Offensively we were consistant and got a chance to work a few new wrinkles into our scheme. I feel we could have run harder at times, however, our backs did a decent job of finding holes and getting yards. THe big thing we looked at going into these two scrimmages is ball security. I think we have had 1 turnover over the last two scrimmages, which ain't too bad. Coach Meyers does a good job with those guys, and gave us a good compliment since he has been here at Guymon before. He said that ain't the same looking team. So now it's off to Texas for Dalhart. A very solid team. I think they made the biggest turnaround for wins and losses in the state of Texas last year, so we will have our hands full. Wing T team, and Split 6 on defense. Hope everyone is healthy and ready to do this for real.
Fogle - Guymon

[Clean Green]

Thanks Head Tiger. Much appreciated.

[Falcon_LBs]

Hey coach good luck this week. Will give you head up on Star after the week-end, incase you happen to pick them up in the playoffs.

Next Sat. is Soul Bowl. Douglass looks to be a lot better than last year. Still though I think if you can stop thier running back before he gets going down hill, then you stop 95% of thier offense.

[HeadRanger]

I figure they may have changed to a more pro style attack (Douglass) didn't get a chance to ask Alexander at our district home and away meeting. The last thing I need out here is teams getting better, it's bad enough the way it is. I just want to get a district win under our belts. Good luck to you guys, I hope both sides stay healthy.
Fogle - No man's Land

[CameraManBrent]

What an awesome job on the updates, AntMan :clap: !!

You still hangin out like wet clothes??

I will see you late this year at some BB tournaments!!

CMB

[Clean Green]

OUCH!
Dalhart, TX 42, Guymon 9

[Mmgord77]

Dalhart seems a little bigger than Guyman... How was the difference in amount of players on each team?

[PawneeSports]

Class 3A
District 5
Region 1

Last year went 8-3...Losing to Graham 33 Dalhart 15 in the playoffs.

[HeadRanger]

Without question we faced a physical team. I have to give it up to Coach Young. He has those guys going in the right direction. Size wasn't as much a factor as the heart that we displayed. Granted, these guys run a wing T and are very proficient at using angles and leverage, but we just didn't look the same. Part of it may have been the Riddell's and Air's and Bikes that were going in our chest. They put a couple of our kids out, line wise, and it was difficult to regroup. I have never been in a game where we casue 6 turnovers and get blown out. Not a good day in the panhandle. However, the good thing is, next Friday we get to start it all over again. Those guys are good. Biggest turnaround in the state of Texas as far as wins and losses in any class. We have just got to recover and do what we no how to do. I will try and get back before the big Woodward game.

Fogle - Guymon

[PawneeSports]

Coach, how are you getting from the Panhandle to the NE corner of the state...coaching two games.

Click here to see where you are coach at Caney Valley as well. (http://www.examiner-enterprise.com/articles/2007/09/03/sports/sports432.txt) LOL

[Clean Green]

Guymon 11, Woodward 6
Congrats coach!

[HeadRanger]

Very hard fought game. It's one of those deals where you haven't had success against a team and you have to fight to get over the hump. Woodward gave us all we wnated. Their QB was a ard runner and did a lot of things to give us problems. They came in here and played well without question. I'm just glad to get a win. We had our moments, both good and bad. I just like the way our kids kept pressing through. I had one of my gutsy call moments, on 4th and 1 on our 30. We lined up on the sideline like we were going to punt, and my senior QB said let's get it and end this thing. How do you say no to that? We picked it up and ran the clock. I hope every one faired well this week without injury. Next Week Hugoton Kansas.
Fogle - Guymon

[PawneeSports]

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Guymon, Okla 11 - Woodward, Okla 6
Amarillo Globe-News

Guymon scored just one touchdown and added insurance with two second-half safeties to edge Woodward in a game that saw just 337 yards of offense.

Ulises Caba's extra point after Tijh Slaughter's second-quarter touchdown was the difference in the game.

Randy Costilla ran for 67 yards for Guymon (1-1). Cooper Harrison had 106 yards on 24 carries for Woodward (0-2).

Woodward..00|00|06|00 - 6
Guymon......00|07|02|02 - 11

Guymon - Tijh Slaughter 7 run (Ulises Caba kick)
W - Cooper harrison 40 run (kick failed)
G - Safety.
G - Safety.

Woodward Guymon
First Downs......W-6--------G-9
Rushing Yards...W-98-------G-157
Passing Yards...W-39-------G-43
Total Yards......W-137------G-200
Comp-Att-INT...W-5-14-3--G-5-5-0
Punts-Avg........x x
Fumbles-Lost....W-1-1-----G-3-3
Penalties-Yards.W-4-21----G-7-75

[Clean Green]

Hugoton, Kan.-9
Guymon------34
:cool: :thumbsup:

[HeadRanger]

Hard fought game. We started pretty quick then got a bit down in the 3rd quarter. Hugoton fought all game and did well against us as far as running the ball. We did some things well, but still have a lot of work to do. The good thing about us from watching film is that our guys are continuing to give pretty good effort. As you well know with the start of district you have to up your level of play. It looks like this thing will be pretty tough. Douglass seems to be back in form, Elk, Weatherford, and McGuinness are going to be hard to beat. Anadarko pulled off the upset and beat Chickasha. We will have our hands full, but then again it's just like any other year ni 4A 1. Hoe everyone fared well this weekend.
Fogle - No Man's Land

[Clean Green]

Guymon - 37
Piedmont - 12
final

way to go, coach!

[HeadRanger]

Not bad for the Tigers. We went in and played hard against a tough Piedmont team. No matter what the record, when you get into district play, teams get ready and have good game plans. They did some things that we weren't ready for out of some formations that we didn't adjust to that well. However, we took a few shots and wethered the storm. I think our kids played hard and we played as close to 4 quarters in this game as we have all year. We had several players that stepped up on both sides of the ball. Next up are the Elks and I am sure that they are hungry for a win. Coach Foster does a great job with those guys and what is dangerous is when you know they play hard and are tough. Good luck and I hope everyone came out this week injury free.
Fogle - No Man's Land

[HeadRanger]

Just a thought. I really don't get into the whole whos better than who as far as districts so the only thing I can comment on is ours. I think for as much turnaround from the year before , that coaches and teams have been doing a pretty good job. For example , you've got Douglass, Northeast and Weatherford, along with Piedmont that have new coaches. That's half our district and most of those teams are doing well. I have only seen 1 of them on film, but from what I've seen I have been impressed. Makes my job a lot tougher for sure. I'm sure that there has been a lot of turnover in other disrticts and because of a playoff system, all the rankings and hype won't matter much anyway, but hats off to those guys for getting things going and starting out strong.
Fogle - Guymon

[Clean Green]

another notch on the gun, coach.

Guymon -23
Elk City -10
final

[parkplace]

Were just warming up for ya here in the city.

Irish 45
NE 13

[HeadRanger]

Thanks, We came away from Elk feeling good about our chances in district. Those guys are tough. I knew that going in. Huge as far as the mental gap that we have had against them in the last decade or so. It's also good to get to 2-0. I don't know how this thing will shake out, but it sould be interesting.
Fogle - GUYMON

[OKLAHOMAMOSES]

WAY TO GO COACH! HEADS UP & CHEST OUT! KEEP THOSE TIGERS ROLLING!:clap:

[PawneeSports]

Congratulations, TIGERS and Coaches!

Looks like the Guymon Tigers are "heating up" the HANDLE in Oklahoma.

P-Sports

[HeadRanger]

I don't know what we are doing as far as this district is concerned. I think there are a lot of quality teams and we have our work cut out for us. Let's not forget that we have been everyone's homecoming for the last twenty years. In response to the McGuinness Score, we are not even thinking about that. It's hard enough to win each week, much less think about those guys. I haven't seen them yet, but I know Coach Young does a great job with those guys and they will be ready to play. I don't know about a lot of things, but I do know that they are the champs. We have Anadarko this week and they will come in ready to play. They have a lot of players that can make plays and are off to a 2-0 start. We will take it one game at a time. A lot of things can and probably will happen in this district, so you have to take it week to week.
Fogle - No Mans Land

[PawneeSports]

http://www.pigskinreview.com/images/teamprofiles/coaches/guymonhscoach.jpg

Most definately Coach...one game at a time.

For all others, want to keep up with the TIGERS through this link. (http://www.pigskinreview.com/teams/guymon/)

[HeadRanger]

Kind of an early blog, but just finished watching some film and I am impressd with what Anadarko has done. For so long it has been the Clinton's Weatherfords and Star's that have had a hold on things. Then BM came into the picture and took over where Clinton left off. But those guys in Darko are doing a great job. It is good to see them back and getting better. We will have our hands full. Their QB is impressive and they are big. So we will see how things go. Great challenge. As far as the 2 cities, it's been a long time since people have been excited about a Guymon Anadarko game so I like to seeing that for both places, it's been long overdue. Best of luck to eveyone this week.
Fogle - Panhandle

[Clean Green]

Bummer!
Anadarko 54
Guymon 20

[HeadRanger]

Tough loss. Anadarko came out and played a very good game. My hat goes off to those guys. They have a solid QB and a pretty good tailback. Their D Line was very effective. We just couldn't seem to get anything going, but then again they were a big reason for it. We must learn from this and go back to work. No time to feel sorry for ourselves, we have to regroup and get ready for the Eagles from Weatherford. I'm sure that Coach Roof will have those guys ready to play. He has always done a good job and kids play hard for him. I've watched film and know that they do things right and will be well prepared. Good luck to Darko and hope everyone came out injury free.
FOGLE - No Man's Land

[parkplace]

Headtiger, Weatherford is the dirtiest ball club that I have seen in some years. (See my cheap shot artists thread.) If you play at W'ford, make sure your kids don't retaliate their cheap shots It cost us the services of Gabe Moyer for 2 weeks.

#22, #2 and #65 are pretty good players for W'ford.

[HeadRanger]

From what I gather there is some histor between the two programs. I can assure you that during the course of a game, there are things that you don't want to know about that happen on the bottom of piles. It isn't something that you coach your players to do but one of those things things that everyone knows happens. I have the utmost respect for Coach Roof and know that he teaches his kids well. The answer to that, is for you not to get tackled and finish blocks. LOL. It will be fun. I live to coach in big games, just gotta find a way to win one. Hope everyone is injury free and ready for the week.
Fogle - Gettin Cold Up Here

[Clean Green]

Nightmare!
Weatherford - 43
Guymon - 0
FINAL

[Mmgord77]

Whoa... I wasn't expecting to see that. I hope there were no injuries for the Tigers.

[Clean Green]

5 turnovers. 2 int's returned for TDs. no injuries mentioned on radio report.

[parkplace]

McGuinness 57
Anadarko 0

[BornBuc]

Hey coach I appriciate the updates. I have family up in Guymon, and it's always nice to hear whats going on up there. Best of luck to you guys.

[HeadRanger]

Not very good at all. Got outplayed and thought the game started out well. We drove it the length of the field then missed a field goal. From that point on it was all Weatherford. We had our moments but the biggest thing is the belief wasn't there. I feel that is what they talk about when they say it takes 3 or 4 years to get in and really turn things around. WE are fighting for our playoff lives, talk about the penthouse to the outhouse. We will recover, we did have a spell of guys go down, but that was when they had the game under control. I don't know if it was from the week before or what. Either we get it done or get ready for hoops season. Hope everyone got out of last week injury free
Fogle - Guymon

[HeadRanger]

Very hard fought game against Douglass. Those guys played their hearts out on both sides of the ball. It went down to the last second. We actually did play tonight even though people didn't think we did 27-21. Now we have to worry about a team that has won a lot of games. Great challenge, and I know Coach Young will have BM ready. It's getting down to the last few weeks and we are fortunate to be a team that has a chance still in a very tough district.
Fogle - No Man's Land

[PawneeSports]

Congratulations!

What a drive for OKC Douglas to make a trip to the panhandle...

One game at a time...sweet Jesus - well, something like that.

http://www.guymondailyherald.com/images/stories/1-jump!.jpg
Miranda Gilbert/Guymon Daily Herald

Other Scores
Class 4A, District 1
Weatherford 29, Anadarko 28
Elk City 28, OKC Northeast 6
Bishop McGuiness 42, Piedmont 0

[PawneeSports]

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In Guymon
Guymon 27, OKC Douglas 21
Score By Quarters
Douglass (5-3, 3-2) 0 14 0 7 — 21
Guymon (5-3, 3-2) 7 14 0 6 — 27
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Scoring Summary
First Quarter
G — Randy Costilla 1 run (Ulises Caba kick), 1:40, Guymon 7, Douglass 0
Second Quarter
G — Justin Fogle 25 pass from Costilla (Caba kick), 8:34, Guymon 14, Douglass 0
D — Dasor Horton 69 run (Augustine Wiah kick), 8:15, Guymon 14, Douglass 7
G — Tijh Slaughter 2 run (Caba kick), 2:53, Guymon 21, Douglass 7
D — Sheldon Smith 1 run (Wiah kick), 30.8 seconds, Guymon 21, Douglass 14
Fourth Quarter
D — Destin Stewart 20 pass from Smith (Wiah kick), 8:21, 21-all tie
G — Coy Fischer 10 pass from Costilla (kick blocked), 1:24, Guymon 27, Douglass 21
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Team Statistics
D G
First Downs 7 17
Rushes-Yards 31-212 51-166
Att-Comp-INT 3-8-0 9-21-1
Passing Yards 78 157
Total Plays-Yards 39-290 71-323
Yards Per Play 7.44 4.49
Fumbles-Lost 4-3 0-0
Penalties-Yards 5-45 8-50
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Individual Offensive Statistics
Rushing
D — Dasor Horton 14-138, Sheldon Smith 15-73, David Hill 2-1; G — Justin Fogle 21-85, Randy Costilla 15-39, Tijh Slaughter 9-24, Brock Chance 6-18
Passing
D — Smith 3-8-0, 78, yards, one touchdown; G — Costilla 9-21-1, 157 yards, two TDs
Receiving
D — Destin Stewart 2-29, DeAndre Vick 1-54; G — Fogle 2-57, Fischer 3-22, Carrillo 2-34, Kip Armstrong 1-36, Dane Weippert 1-8
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Individual Defensive Statistics
UA Ast. T
Colter Headrick 5 2 7
Tyler Laubach 3 3 6
Randy Costilla 4 1 5
Luke Brandherm 1 4 5
Brock Chance 3 1 4
Jordan Fajen 2 2 4
Sam Moore 0 4 4
Coy Fischer 3 0 3
Ulises Caba 2 0 2
Jonathan Stelzer 1 1 2
Tijh Slaughter 1 1 2
Kolton Renteria 1 0 1
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Special Defensive Statistics
Quarterback Sacks: Brock Chance, Tijh Slaughter and Tyler Laubach
Pass Deflections: Coy Fischer and Randy Costilla
Forced Fumble: Brock Chance
Fumble Recoveries: Luke Brandherm, Weippert and Slaughter

[HeadRanger]

The trip is what you make it. We have to do it all the time so I guess we're kind of used to it. It came down to turnovers, and I think they had 3. I guess people had it in their minds that we weren't good enough to be a playoff team. Some say we have no talent, which is fine. I don't know what we will do in the next 2 weeks or how this thing will shake out, but we have good players and they play hard. Douglass looked more like the teams that coached against when I was at Star Spencer. They are a heck of a team, and I wouldn't want to play them again. We just play and try to do the things that it takes to win football games. Next up BM

Fogle - Panhandle

[parkplace]

Headtiger, look forward to having you at BM this friday. I'll come say Hello this friday. Good Luck!!

[HeadRanger]

I will be looking for you. After a few days of watching film, I know that Coach Young has those guys going in the right direction. They are well coached and that's what you look for in great teams. You guys flow to the ball well on defense and pick and chose what you want to do on offense. A very difficult match up for us. We controlled to ball against Douglass, and no matter what anyone says, they have kids that in my opinion would start for us or you guys at certain key positions. It will be interestiong to say the least although I know no one in their right mind would have us close as far as a prediction. Sorry we couldn't hold up to our end and make this a game that had championship applications. I think we are getting healthy and really look forward to a game. I look forward to seeing you.

Fogle - Pretty cold in No Man's Land

[Coach]

No Offense to the Tigers, but BM is the real deal. They are a real talented group of young men. I know there are people on here who like to think that they recruit and all this, but they are very talented. They have good depth and are coached well. I would like to see Guyman make a game of this. I just don't see that happening. Fogle has done some great things for the Panhandle Tigers, but my prediction is BM 34 GHS 7. Good luck to both teams and may you both come out injury free.

[Mmgord77]

I would almost say that keeping it 34 - 7 is doing something. I know Coach and his players won't see it that way, but the way BM has been playing lately, that would be a pretty close game. Good luck to the Tigers, though!

[Brentman]

Heck...the way BMH has been playing lately I would think if the Tigers are even able to score on the first team defense they should feel good. Coach young has them playing very solid D, but he also is very hesitant to call off the dogs early. Guyman won't see much substituting until late in the fourth quarter from BMH if they play as they have been.

However, as we have all seen this year in football...I guess anything could happen. But BMH is as solid accross the board as any 4A team I have seen in a long while. Good Luck!

[Clean Green]

Well coach, it hurts to get pounded by BM but it looks like you'll make the playoffs if you take care of business next week. You're doin' a good job.:thumbsup:

[HeadRanger]

Not a very good showing by us in many ways. We have to learn some things about the game and the way it's played. As a coach and a guy that's played a lot I have ideas about how the game should be played. I know what the odds are of making it as far as I have as a player, and the passion that you must play with each and every time you step foot on the field. I never look at talent as the basis of what you do, I look at heart. Funny, it may seem that every one that plays on Sunday's is a great athlete, but when you crunch the numbers from all over the country, there are a lot of guys that have potential, but not the desire to dream big. If you look at our district, I don't know if you can point out 2 kids that are going to the highest level, but McGuinness has guys that play for each other. Their Mike is 170lbs, but he plays with passion. Just looking at him, you would think that if you got a body on him you can make a play, but he doesn't believe that. We played our freshmen the entire second half, and gave up 2 td's and that was the most fun I've had in a long time. This is,in my opinion the greatest team sport in the world, and when we understand that the team, us, the tigers, must take care of each other, we will do great things

[Coach]

Well said Coach Fogel.

[Clean Green]

Northeast - 29
Guymon - 28
FINAL

ooo...so close.

[HeadRanger]

Very hard fought game. We had a lot of things that we delt with this week internally, however that is no excuse for the game. We played hard, but not smart at times, and a very athletic team beat us in overtime. Still there are things that we can do better. But then again every coach who is still practicing this week will say that. One of 16 teams left, and everyone is 0-0.
I know that no one will give us a snowball's chance to even be in this game, but we were competitive last year. I like the odds. Thanks to all that kept up with us throughout the season. All anyone's gotta do is win 4 more games. Why not us?

Fogle Guymon

[parkplace]

Give em hell coach!! Good Luck to another 4A-1 team.

[HeadRanger]

This will be an interesting match up to say the least. Coach Edwards does agreat job with the players he has. First I have to start out by saying that it was extremely tough just to get to where we are now. It's not fun to play some of the teams that we have faced so far. Honestly it's brutal. Both city schools have talent. There is no getting around that. Each had WR's at about 6'3 210, and can go get it. Douglass, which palys my old high school Star Spencer actually beat them, and are not in the playoff's. That's our number 5 in the district going against a 2 who lost to both Glenpool and Mannford by a combined 6 points. Taking nothing away from any other district, because I don't see other teams, but that doesn't happen a lot. How this thing shakes out in my opinion comes down to turnovers. Whoever holds on to the ball will come out on top, and Glenpool does not have a history of fumbling the football, or throwing into coverage. We just have to take care of the ball and do things right. Best of luck to everyone still in it, and thanks for the support.
FOGLE - GUYMON

[elk3730]

You've got my support. Get after it!!

[HeadRanger]

Not at all what you would expect in a playoff game. Hats of to Glenpool. They came out and did well. We play two different halfs. They scored 32 in the first half, and 8 in the second. We played good on offense for a half, and bad on defense for a half. I have to say that I am proud of our kids for fighting. They didn't give up no matter what the score was. We learned a lot this season. The biggest thing was understanding that we aren't the usual homecoming and that you have to come out and play every week. I think we have kids coming up that will do great things. I want to thank all of you guys for your support. You have made this a great seson for me. Just to come in and tyoe what we have going and the responses you give. WQe will get the ball rolling. Good luck to everyone that is still going, and hope that everyone is healthy.

Fogle - Guymon

[parkplace]

Coach Fogle, how would you compare BM to Glenpool. Can the Irish take em?

[HeadRanger]

It will be hard for anyone to beat BM. I think the gold ball will stay on this side of the state barring any significate injuries. They were the most complete team we faced. I know that they have more things on offense that they haven't had to show, so that will make them more difficult to defend against. I think you have to be physical with them, but they are gainning that Clinton complex. Just the Jersey alone gives them 14 points before they step out on the field. Should be interesting though

[HeadRanger]

One more thing since I have been doing a little bit of self reflection. In looking at those guys from McGuinness, and people can say whatever they want about them getting kids in there and public schools can't, they seem to have a love about what they are doing. They may have 2 or 3 guys that can take it to the next level as far as D 1, but for the most part they are just regular kids. Where I see advantages are in the surroundings. In towns that football is taken seriously, if you don't play football, then something is wrong with you. I grant it that the other 3 teams playing have that. Their kids put all their heart into the game, and it is hard to loose, because that is what they do. It shocks me that McGuinness has that as well with kids being from all over the city. That is the biggest difference from when I coached against them in 01 and 02 and now. Our kids at Star lived the game and they didn't as much. They were just getting started as far as winning. Let's not forget that they climbed a long way to get where they are. They have not only the swagger, but the desire. Two things that in my opinion are dangerous in HS Football. It should be interesting.

Fogle-Guymon

[Mmgord77]

Very good points and thought...

[parkplace]

Fogle, the BM kids aren't from all over OKC. Most of the kids live in North OKC. Nichols Hills, Quail Creek, The Greens and a few from Edmond. 99% of these kids played in the Catholic Grade School Leagues together and have bonded just like kids who play in small towns. They all realize that football is a team sport and each one has a role. Just do your role and if everyoe does their roll correct, the team will go far. We don't have any stand out kids in football, just kids who know their rolls in the schemes that BM runs. When you have 22 roll players pulling on the same rope, that rope will take you too CHAMPIONSHIPS!!

[WP34]

Just curious, Does BM have any athletes with IEP's? (Special Ed qualifications) I know nothing about how students enroll in private schools, but don't they have to maintain a certain GPA to continue going to school there?

[parkplace]

McGuinness considers itself a college prep school. It has accelerate classes for the gifted, a regular course study and a program for slow learners or challenged stuents.

If yur looking for mroe info than that, I can't help ya./

[HeadRanger]

They have the typical problems that most public schools will have probably just not as many. And let's be real, there aren't several former pros that are chompin at the bit to get their sons enrolled at BM. In time if they continue to have the kind of success that they are having that may be a different story, however, if I had a son and didn't coach and wanted to get him exposure, as they call it, there are 2 bigger schools on the east side that would be a good choice. I go back to how bad they were when I first got into coaching. I'd doubt that there were a lot of coaches that wanted to go there. I give them props. We all have challenges and I'm sure they do. One advantage that I'm sure they have is that the kids that are there want to be there, if it's FB, BB, or academics. I have to recruit the halls out here, and when you do that, most of the time if kids aren't playing already, it's because they don't want to. It's not aseasy as one would think when it comes to forming a team in either situation. I know in California, private schools rule, but not so much as in Texas. I doubt that we will be taken over by private schools because of the geography of the state. Lawton for example will not open a private school at a 4 5 or 6A level. There are too many seperate towns here as is the case in Texas, plus too much tradition in those towns. I have to deal with those guys every year so I will have my hands full without question. But to say either has a distinct advantage over the other, I would have to say not yet. I mean, every coach needs that kid that lives and breathes football, and you worry a little about in the class, as well as the smart kid that can manage a game. Chemistry is what they call it and BM has it. May try to get down state and check out a few games.
FOGLE-COLD PANHANDLE

[HeadRanger]

With everything winding down I've had 3 weeks to ask the typical questions that most coaches ask when you come up short. Two Bill's made me look at the game in a much different light during the time that I was in the league. While the x's and o's of the NY Jet offense and defense was much more complex than HS, the things that bothered them the most were more in the range of the mindset of the team. Keep in mind, they went 1-15 the year before I got there. As you guys go into the offseason you probably done similar things as I have. Look back at games, evaluate who you have coming back. The biggest problem I see for us is the way kids approach things. Here you have some talented teams, and a state champ as well. I have got to figure out ways other than the weight room, to make kids believe, dream or whatever you want to call it, as does all of us without rings on our fingers I'm sure. I'm looking at doing a lot of things different, but haven't got the exact blueprint right now. I will throw some things out over the next few weeks, and feel free to let me know your thoughts as well. Hope every has a great offseason.
Fogle-The Handle

[Mmgord77]

Hey Coach, I hope things go well up there for you this offseason. Hope you don't have to recruit the hallways too much. Those players should be learning how good of a thing they've got up there with you and the coaching staff. They should jump in and give it their all! Good luck up there and stay warm...

[HeadRanger]

A couple of things to look at that as a staff we met with and need to address. 1st the weightroom is fine and good. However the frontal lobe in the average kids mind is not developed. Not joking here. It processes future reasoning. To the average kid they look at next August as light years away. We have to compete in the weightroom. Divide up in teams and once a week do a circuit race. Something that makes them want to win. Here's the key, win at something every day. Dave Shula and the head coach at Dartmouth were riding across the nation for cancer awareness and I told him that. Heck, I got it from another coach. Second how do you beat the temas that you haven't been able to beat since Moby Dick was a minnow. Don't have the exact answer for that one. Worst thing to do is wait around for a crop of kids that are just that much better than everone else. That could be a long wait. Best thing I've some up with is give them a team a week. We do agilities before each lift session. Give them numbers of the kids that are coming back from different teams. ASk them if they think 56 worked as hard as our kid did. Brainwashing. Making kids believe that no matter who they play they have a chance.

Fogle - ICY GUYMON