Davis vs Vian

[Ground_Attack]

might as well get it started. :spin: Lets hear it. :beathorse:

[ltxc9y]

might as well get it started. :spin: Lets hear it. :beathorse: Well ground game as you very well know we will be backed up against a wall with these posts, but in the end I feel that we will prevail. We may fight for our lives, but if so that is OK. Maybe if we win Mr. "Your Cockiness" will go away with his tail tucked between his legs. We may lose, and if so we will lose with Pride knowing we played the game the best way we knew how, and knowing that their are only 4 2A teams left playing, and we are one of them. That my friend is an accomplishment in itself. Nuf said.:clap:

[ltxc9y]

Well ground game as you very well know we will be backed up against a wall with these posts, but in the end I feel that we will prevail. We may fight for our lives, but if so that is OK. Maybe if we win Mr. "Your Cockiness" will go away with his tail tucked between his legs. We may lose, and if so we will lose with Pride knowing we played the game the best way we knew how, and knowing that their are only 4 2A teams left playing, and we are one of them. That my friend is an accomplishment in itself. Nuf said.:clap:Also why is it "Mr. Cockiness" is a member on this site, but he is no member of his Wolverines site "Purple Pulse"? Is it that your attitude won't allow you on there? Or are the true Wolverine fans not allowing your big mouth on their quality site? Just wondering.:headscratch:

[TWrightSr75]

If for some reason Vian did play a bad game (not likely)and lose,i would never run and hide.We lost last year and it hurt but that's history and it's not gonna be a rerun,this is the best team Vian has ever had and they don't over look ANYONE!Davis is considered a threat but Vian also plays so aggressive something that you guys haven't seen.I saw how tired those players were and how they had to hold to keep Henryetta from tackles.I will give those lil dudes credit they're shifty and made Henryetta look bad at times trying to tackle but Vian loves running teams.Spiro was the first victim and then Colcord felt the POWER!!!Last week was the first time this season a team came in passing more than they run,The Wolverines had 8 sacks,5 from The D line.Vian only earned respect this year a couple of weeks ago after smashing so called contenders in the mouth,no one gave them a #1 rank or picked them to win anything.Davis got embarassed last year by Chandler and even after a terribly weak schedule they remain #1.After finally watching them last night that's enough motivation to make anyone CONFIDENT!!!The Mighty Wolverines are no Heritage Hall or Henryetta,they're not even on our level!!!!!!

[TWrightSr75]

Also why is it "Mr. Cockiness" is a member on this site, but he is no member of his Wolverines site "Purple Pulse"? Is it that your attitude won't allow you on there? Or are the true Wolverine fans not allowing your big mouth on their quality site? Just wondering.:headscratch:I do have a big mouth and have never had a problem getting my point across,i was on a site but it wasn't running that well and why do i wanna talk among our fans we do that at games.I wanna talk to the whole state.Could i talk to you on there?

[scott_2o]

I hear that Albe got hurt on friday is there truth to that. The radio anouncer for Alva said he left the field holding his leg.:confused:

[ltxc9y]

If for some reason Vian did play a bad game (not likely)and lose,i would never run and hide.We lost last year and it hurt but that's history and it's not gonna be a rerun,this is the best team Vian has ever had and they don't over look ANYONE!Davis is considered a threat but Vian also plays so aggressive something that you guys haven't seen.I saw how tired those players were and how they had to hold to keep Henryetta from tackles.I will give those lil dudes credit they're shifty and made Henryetta look bad at times trying to tackle but Vian loves running teams.Spiro was the first victim and then Colcord felt the POWER!!!Last week was the first time this season a team came in passing more than they run,The Wolverines had 8 sacks,5 from The D line.Vian only earned respect this year a couple of weeks ago after smashing so called contenders in the mouth,no one gave them a #1 rank or picked them to win anything.Davis got embarassed last year by Chandler and even after a terribly weak schedule they remain #1.After finally watching them last night that's enough motivation to make anyone CONFIDENT!!!The Mighty Wolverines are no Heritage Hall or Henryetta,they're not on even on our level!!!!!! So from what I am reading you are basically saying that the Wolverines will not be tired by the end of the Game right? That this will be a cake walk for you guys, no competion at all. One game, and your an expert on the Davis Wolves huh? You may very well beat the Wolves, but we will not be as easy to beat as you make it sound "Your Cockiness". The Wolves didn't ask for the #1 ranking the experts gave it to them. :thumbsup:

[TWrightSr75]

Yea he kinda got his knee tweaked a bit but he only sit out a couple of plays and went back in for a sack,he's the true definition of a Wolverine.That dude is a BEAST!!!!!!!!!

[scott_2o]

I wish you would stop influencing him to show his inteligence.

[Ground_Attack]

I'll agree that the Wolverines are (probably) far better than any team Davis has faced thus far. Does that mean Davis should cower down in fear or that Vian is a sure win since Davis had a close game with Henryetta? Hell no!!! It simply means that there will be a semi-final game fought hard between two quality teams.

And your comment on Davis losing to Chandler and retaining #1 after a "terribly weak schedule" is hipocrisy. I've seen you post probably a dozen times (when we talk about tradition and history) that it was last year, or two years ago, or whatever. That it doesn't matter since we are playing THIS year. Just thought I'd point that out.

[TWrightSr75]

So from what I am reading you are basically saying that the Wolverines will not be tired by the end of the Game right? That this will be a cake walk for you guys, no competion at all. One game, and your an expert on the Davis Wolves huh? You may very well beat the Wolves, but we will not be as easy to beat as you make it sound "Your Cockiness". The Wolves didn't ask for the #1 ranking the experts gave it to them. :thumbsup:Yea they'll be tired but they are use to it Davis isn't.If Henryetta had a better Defense the outcome would've been different.Hey i can't take anything away from you guys i know Davis didn't give themselves that rank but we want it and all year long have played the part.Vian has destroyed 8 playoff teams and has never disrespected,played dirty or overlooked anyone.Vian's the team that hasn't got the respect these kids have earned it,that's where my cockiness as you call it comes from.

[ltxc9y]

I wish you would stop influencing him to show his inteligence. I really will try, but it is hard to stop. sorry:headscratch: He is too easy to influence.:thumbsup:

[scott_2o]

I appreciate it

[ltxc9y]

Yea they'll be tired but they are use to it Davis isn't.If Henryetta had a better Defense the outcome would've been different.Hey i can't take anything away from you guys i know Davis didn't give themselves that rank but we want it and all year long have played the part.Vian has destroyed 8 playoff teams and has never disrespected,played dirty or overlooked anyone.Vian's the team that hasn't got the respect these kids have earned it,that's where my cockiness as you call it comes from.
I guess we will retreat in fear of the Mighty Wolverines because we will be too tired to finish the game.:headscratch: Please! Wait and see, you wait and see.:thumbsup:

[ltxc9y]

I appreciate itAnyway what else should we talk about on this site? Basket weaving?:headscratch:

[scott_2o]

Anyway what else should we talk about on this site? Basket weaving?:headscratch:
Then we could all learn we are doing that wrong.:)

[ltxc9y]

Then we could all learn we are doing that wrong.:)Good one:thumbsup:

[TWrightSr75]

If you don't wanna listen Scotty then go somewhere else,i wasn't talking to you anyway.I sure have heard alot big babies here talking about intellegence and being too cocky,what do you wanna hear Scotty boy.You want me to tell you how sensitive i am or wait until we win and say i told you so like i was still in high school.This is grown folks business and if you can't handle real talk maybe you should go and find a forum where you can talk about a dog show or something.By the way until Spiro won those last two games where you and your pics,i went out for them 2 before the playoffs started and my final 4 is exact.After a win you don't hear me retort on that,it's money in the bank and then the next job.Don't test me because you can't see me.

[scott_2o]

If you don't wanna listen Scotty then go somewhere else,i wasn't talking to you anyway.I sure have heard alot big babies here talking about intellegence and being too cocky,what do you wanna hear Scotty boy.You want me to tell you how sensitive i am or wait until we win and say i told you so like i was still in high school.This is grown folks business and if you can't handle real talk maybe you should go and find a forum where you can talk about a dog show or something.By the way until Spiro won those last two games where you and your pics,i went out for them 2 before the playoffs started and my final 4 is exact.After a win you don't hear me retort on that,it's money in the bank and then the next job.Don't test me because you can't see me.
No I dont want to hear about youre feelings. What I want to hear is something like"I think Vian is going to win A close game because our defence will be able to stop the run, and our offence has way to many weapons to be stopped". I dont want to hear "VIAN IS THE GREATEST TEAM EVER I PLAYED FOR THEM IN 1974 THEREFORE THEY WILL KILL EVRYONE BY FORTY!!"

[Wolf9704]

HAHAHA.....:tongue:

[TWrightSr75]

No I dont want to hear about youre feelings. What I want to hear is something like"I think Vian is going to win A close game because our defence will be able to stop the run, and our offence has way to many weapons to be stopped". I dont want to hear "VIAN IS THE GREATEST TEAM EVER I PLAYED FOR THEM IN 1974 THEREFORE THEY WILL KILL EVRYONE BY FORTY!!"For my lost and ignorant pupil i'm not that old and quote me one time saying that.Why would it matter how i said it,if it's true.Hey this is what it is.Nobody said anything to Spiro when they got on the radio and said how Vian had'nt played anybody and how they were gonna run over The V,well my friend you're probably from Spiro and are just mad at that serious beat down you guys took.You might have another shot if yall can shut Mr. Prettyboy Gerald Jones down.

[scott_2o]

Sorry I misunderstood the Sr75 refrence in youre name.. As far as being from Spiro I am not. The only hints to my hometown or age anyone will get is that we used to spank Vian and we got beat in the semis in 99.I l also want to end saying I believe VIAN will win state this year in a very impresive manor.

[TWrightSr75]

If you believe that then why give me a hard time about what i say?

[scott_2o]

Because the manor in which you go about youre opinion reflects negetivly not just on yourselfe but to the whole community of VIAN.:o

[TWrightSr75]

Because the manor in which you go about youre opinion reflects negetivly not just on yourselfe but to the whole community of VIAN.:oThat's so stupid,it's like saying boxing fans are a disgrace to that sport or Raiders fans shouldn't be so agressive.I've seen alot worst in Pee Wee Football.

[ltxc9y]

Sorry I misunderstood the Sr75 refrence in youre name.. As far as being from Spiro I am not. The only hints to my hometown or age anyone will get is that we used to spank Vian and we got beat in the semis in 99.I l also want to end saying I believe VIAN will win state this year in a very impresive manor.I realize that this is your opinion and you are definitely entitled to it, but in order to get to that game you must win the next one first. If you win next week then Vian can take a shot at Gerald Jones and his other 6 D1 recruits. If Vian is really that good how come no one from there team is listed on any top recruiter lists? I feel the Wolves have a legitimate shot at the gold ball with 1 D1 recruit(#3), but won't know for sure until we play Vian and all their self proclaimed studs next week.Maybe the Wolves should just forfeit the game and avoid the shame and embarrasment Vian will put on us huh? Hope you guys are what you say you are, and this will be one heck of a football game.:thumbsup:

[TWrightSr75]

I don't care how many D 1 recruits Millwood has,Vian's like the OU 2001 Champ,the #'s speak for themselves also i don't have to say anything.Londell Taylor is the best athlete in Oklahoma,if you wanna say all that silly stuff about Davis not showing up whatever.You'll see Saturday for yourself how many good players we have,did you forget about Oklahomas leading Td record holder.He's just one.

[nufsed]

[QUOTE=TWright

good job being a smart A **
i bet your making the marvelous wolverine proud, if i knew someone from my team was on here talking the game you are.
i would tell them to quit, your an embarrassment to your community

let hear it vian tell this guy to shut up !!!! he's making you look bad

[TWrightSr75]

Why don't you go rope a goat!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[nufsed]

bite me

[nufsed]

i like goats

[TWrightSr75]

You sound like a woman.

[ltxc9y]

You sound like a woman.Great:thumbsup: "your cockiness" look what you started! nufsed is gonna keep on until you either both get kicked off, or wear out.

[TWrightSr75]

I'm not gonna waste time talking about stupid stuff,i just had to come back once but if it's not a logical arguement or debate i'm not gonna fire back.

[President_Imposter]

Blah Blah Blah!!!! I read the first page, and skipped the rest of it because it was just three people argueing back and forth. Seriously guys, get over it. Debate about the game, but quit the bickering.

Now, I think it'll be a good game, but Vian comes out on top. It'll be a close first half, then Vian slowly seals it up after the half.

Vian 34
Davis 17

[TWrightSr75]

Blah Blah Blah!!!! I read the first page, and skipped the rest of it because it was just three people argueing back and forth. Seriously guys, get over it. Debate about the game, but quit the bickering.

Now, I think it'll be a good game, but Vian comes out on top. It'll be a close first half, then Vian slowly seals it up after the half.

Vian 34
Davis 17Did you get to see the game last night?

[President_Imposter]

Yes I did. Davis was good, but to be honest, I wasn't impressed. I say we "test the water" for the first half, then dig in deep in the second half.

[TWrightSr75]

Yes I did. Davis was good, but to be honest, I wasn't impressed. I say we "test the water" for the first half, then dig in deep in the second half.:thumbsup:

[Ground_Attack]

I don't care how many D 1 recruits Millwood has,Vian's like the OU 2001 Champ,the #'s speak for themselves also i don't have to say anything.

That bodes well for Davis then since OU won the "2000" Championship. (i realize the game was in 01. doesn't matter).

Londell Taylor is the best athlete in Oklahoma

wow! just wow! Can you be a bigger homer?

Yea they'll be tired but they are use to it Davis isn't.

That is just asisine. Seeing as how Davis is the only team of the two that had to play an entire game. Davis will be one of the best conditioned teams you'll ever play against. To state otherwise is just blowing hot air. However, I would imagine that both will be tired.

[Pathkiller]

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

[TWrightSr75]

Show me someone better,but you'll see him Saturday in the flesh.

[ltxc9y]

Show me someone better,but you'll see him Saturday in the flesh.
Easy now "Your Cockiness", you guys have a good team this year,a nd you are the football gods. What about next year, or last year? Davis can at least say they have fielded a playoff team every year for the last 20 probably minus 1. I know this is off the subject, but he brought this up somewhere, and here is an answer. I will quit feeding the lepracaun now.:tongue:

[V1067]

I keep reading all these posts where people claim that because someone is from a certain city that they represent the whole town!!!! What kind of crazy reasoning is that? NO ONE here represents anybody but themselves for crying out loud. When you give an opinion it's yours and that's all. It's stupid to say they make a whole town look bad. It makes that person look like he's just looking for a reason to say something bad. Be more honest and admit that these posts are just the individual opinions of one person and quit running down a whole town full of people you don't even know. My opinion is all of these small towns in Oklahoma are pretty similar in that we've all got some good ones and bad ones.

[CBRdrummer]

This whole thread is rediculously stupid.

But I will comment on the comment about TWrightsr75 and the Purple Pulse website. I'm one of the administrators so this is a straight answer...The Purple Pulse will not refuse registration to anyone, whether you're a wolverine lover or wolverine hater. We also will not refuse the right to post on any thread, whether you're a wolverine hater or wolverine lover. However, just like most other forums, we do not allow disrespectful or unsportsmanlike posting. You may have you're opinion and you may state it. Unless it's out of hand, you'll remain a member. For the record, TWrightsr75 has not registered with our site, and if he chooses to do so, we will not deny his right to register and/or post.

Have a nice day! :D

[wolffann]

You know I beleive Vian is one of those teams that comes along once in 20 years or so. Let TWright say what he wants to say because he wont be around year in and year out like Davis will. I am VERY proud of this team and all they have accomplished, Semi-finals AGAIN! That means they outlasted 60 other teams. I dont understand why fans like TW have to ruin getting to appreciate watching a team like that but he has.
I have heard two times already people say that Davis is very good but they weren't "impressed". Unless you can appreciate the discipline and the type of football Davis plays (ball control ground attack football) then there is nothing impressive about it. They aren't trying to impress anybody, they are just fighting for a "W" any way they can. If its impressive or not has nothing to do with the outcome and the Davis players, fans, and coaches all feel this way because a W is a W no matter what.
I also think the Davis players have showed great heart and poise when the pressure is on and they responded very well so do worry about them panicking if they get behind. They will play with everything they have got on saturday and it may or may not be enough, either way I am proud to be a WOLF!

[CBRdrummer]

You know I beleive Vian is one of those teams that comes along once in 20 years or so. Let TWright say what he wants to say because he wont be around year in and year out like Davis will.
Are you bashing Vian or TWright with that comment? With the way I see our football program going, there's no reason to say Vian won't be strong for years to come. You should see our little league! :thumbsup:

It's too bad that opinions are changed because of a single individual.

[ltxc9y]

This whole thread is rediculously stupid.

But I will comment on the comment about TWrightsr75 and the Purple Pulse website. I'm one of the administrators so this is a straight answer...The Purple Pulse will not refuse registration to anyone, whether you're a wolverine lover or wolverine hater. We also will not refuse the right to post on any thread, whether you're a wolverine hater or wolverine lover. However, just like most other forums, we do not allow disrespectful or unsportsmanlike posting. You may have you're opinion and you may state it. Unless it's out of hand, you'll remain a member. For the record, TWrightsr75 has not registered with our site, and if he chooses to do so, we will not deny his right to register and/or post.

Have a nice day! :D Nuf Said:thumbsup:

[ltxc9y]

You know I beleive Vian is one of those teams that comes along once in 20 years or so. Let TWright say what he wants to say because he wont be around year in and year out like Davis will. I am VERY proud of this team and all they have accomplished, Semi-finals AGAIN! That means they outlasted 60 other teams. I dont understand why fans like TW have to ruin getting to appreciate watching a team like that but he has.
I have heard two times already people say that Davis is very good but they weren't "impressed". Unless you can appreciate the discipline and the type of football Davis plays (ball control ground attack football) then there is nothing impressive about it. They aren't trying to impress anybody, they are just fighting for a "W" any way they can. If its impressive or not has nothing to do with the outcome and the Davis players, fans, and coaches all feel this way because a W is a W no matter what.
I also think the Davis players have showed great heart and poise when the pressure is on and they responded very well so do worry about them panicking if they get behind. They will play with everything they have got on saturday and it may or may not be enough, either way I am proud to be a WOLF!
Nuf said:thumbsup:

[its matt hughes]

wolverine football will not disapear anymore.we might bounce from class a to 2a but we will be around.the old tradition in vian football was being favored to when our district year after year.thanks to the success of our youth league that is changing fans views and will start changing the media's view on vian football.our new tradition will be vian plays for the state championship year after year.unlike some teams i hope we win more then we lose.we will be losing alot of talent this year but we have more talent stepping up.i always here people talk about respect for their team.whenever you bring home one of them gold balls then your team will deserve respect.respect isnt given its earned.the vian wolverines will be earning that respect real soon.

nuf said!

[Ground_Attack]

unlike some teams i hope we win more then we lose.

do you really think anyone hopes to lose? :confused:

[President_Imposter]

Man, GA is a smart@$$ today isn't he? Well, more than usual anyways.

[its matt hughes]

no, i just hope vian can win more then they lose. hey ground attack im going to send you some funny info.

[Ground_Attack]

maybe more than usual...but I'm just replying to what was written. ;)

[ltxc9y]

wolverine football will not disapear anymore.we might bounce from class a to 2a but we will be around.the old tradition in vian football was being favored to when our district year after year.thanks to the success of our youth league that is changing fans views and will start changing the media's view on vian football.our new tradition will be vian plays for the state championship year after year.unlike some teams i hope we win more then we lose.we will be losing alot of talent this year but we have more talent stepping up.i always here people talk about respect for their team.whenever you bring home one of them gold balls then your team will deserve respect.respect isnt given its earned.the vian wolverines will be earning that respect real soon.


nuf said!Don't take this as a smart??? comment OK? If you guys in Vian continue what you say that you will, that will make you alot like Davis already is. I watched my nephew play 4th grade ball a few weeks ago, and they were running the wishbone with the same emphasis as the high school. The fullback was huge and could run well, and the little QB was throwing touchdown passes. Don't get smart with me on this, I am just COMMENTING on what was WRITTEN also. Good luck to the Vian program. You will then see what I mean about tradition playing a part in a great football heritage. Year after year of success is very addictive. You just got to believe.

[TWrightSr75]

Vian has alot of football tradition and have had some great teams.Alot of these younger kids don't know this,but Vian has always made it to the playoffs except for a few years.Not everyone can bragg about championships,i can't say how long Bishop Mcguinness has had a team but if they win this year it would be the first for them.It's just been a long road for Vian(71 Class A ),last year it was in the trophy case and then bam buster douglas'd.Vian has had players on the major college football level,in the NFL and some just Vian and state legends.

[wolffann]

Hey CB I definately do not mean any disrespect to Vian or their team. I guess that was for Twright since I dont think he would be so cocky if you weren't so dominant. You guys have an amazing football team this year and everyone knows that. You are right I shouldnt let my opinion be influenced by one person but I dont think I am the only one who dreads Vian winning only because we still have to hear it from the arrogant TW. I understand his excitement and I can appreciate that since I feel the same way about the Wolves but I do not understand the cockiness. You cant help but want to see someone like that fall. Good Luck to Vian and dont take this team or this time for granted because the next thing you know you will find yourself talking like "remember that 06 team with all those weapons", so enjoy it TWright and for Gods sake let us enjoy it with you.

[V1067]

Did any of you guys notice that former OU quarterback J.C.Watts was at the Vian/Alva game? He spent most of the game in the press box.

[teresa]

Did any of you guys notice that former OU quarterback J.C.Watts was at the Vian/Alva game? He spent most of the game in the press box.
Steve Owens was there, too.

[V1067]

No kiddin', that's awesome!!

[TWrightSr75]

Larry Briggs hangs out around the stands also.

[Ground_Attack]

the Vian celebrity caravan? :D

[President_Imposter]

BOO OU!!! However, yay Vian alumni that made it past high school!!!!

[Ground_Attack]

what do Watts and Owens have to do with Vian?

[President_Imposter]

I wasn't necessarily speaking of them. I was speaking of the alum in general. If they played ball somewhere after high school and aren't currently either locked up or on drugs, GO YOU!

[SmokeMonkey]

They really don't have anything to do with Vian they just love the free pizza and hot wings we have in our press box.:D

[lincolnshire]

Don't worry Ironmen, Watts isn't deserting you, he had on his Eufaula Football jacket ;) I heard Richard Jordan ('http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/3755') is coming in for Saturday's game. I wonder if Kenyatta Wright ('http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/192336') will make it?

[CBRdrummer]

Heck, Ray Jordan is a legend in my book...hehe

[TWrightSr75]

Don't worry Ironmen, Watts isn't deserting you, he had on his Eufaula Football jacket ;) I heard Richard Jordan ('http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/3755') is coming in for Saturday's game. I wonder if Kenyatta Wright ('http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/192336') will make it?Kenyatta was coming Friday but had something to attend to.

[voice4hire]

It's the Ironheads, lincolnshire...just for the sake of posterity. :)

[TWrightSr75]

It's the Ironheads, lincolnshire...just for the sake of posterity. :):D

[ltxc9y]

Hey CB I definately do not mean any disrespect to Vian or their team. I guess that was for Twright since I dont think he would be so cocky if you weren't so dominant. You guys have an amazing football team this year and everyone knows that. You are right I shouldnt let my opinion be influenced by one person but I dont think I am the only one who dreads Vian winning only because we still have to hear it from the arrogant TW. I understand his excitement and I can appreciate that since I feel the same way about the Wolves but I do not understand the cockiness. You cant help but want to see someone like that fall. Good Luck to Vian and dont take this team or this time for granted because the next thing you know you will find yourself talking like "remember that 06 team with all those weapons", so enjoy it TWright and for Gods sake let us enjoy it with you.Hey wolffan looks, or sounds like you are giving up on the Wolves, or did I read that wrong.:headscratch:

[TWrightSr75]

Hey wolffan looks, or sounds like you are giving up on the Wolves, or did I read that wrong.:headscratch:He's just showing us some respect and anyone that don't respect The Wolverines will feel "THE POWER OF DESTRUCTION"!!!!!!!!!!!:mad:
Wolfy:I only talk before the fact,because when it's over there's nothing to be said.

[ltxc9y]

He's just showing us some respect and anyone that don't respect The Wolverines will feel "THE POWER OF DESTRUCTION"!!!!!!!!!!!:mad:
Wolfy:I only talk before the fact,because when it's over there's nothing to be said. Man you talk before the fact, after the fact, between the fact, beside the fact that you have no clue to what is the fact and what is fiction at times. Give me a break, you and your mighty water otters! Remember you can't see me neither:tongue:

[Ground_Attack]

so are you saying that we should to respect the Wolverines, but the Wolverines shouldn't have to respect their opponent? Because obviously you haven't shown any respect to any of Vian's opponents.

[sequoyahcountyfan]

everyone has forgotten what the topic is.. I was at the game saturday, it was one hell of a game. But the fact of the matter is that Davis is pretty much a 1 man offence. Granted he is a heck of a player, but I believe that when you shut him down Davis dont really have much. they do have speed but cant match up with Vian player for player. Davis is small and fast, but Vian is big and fast. I believe that will be the difference. Heneretta was big and slow.(over all) Davis cant run up the middle on Vian and Vians D-ends and L-backers will keep Mr. Black in check. I do think that he will get some yards, (he is to good to completely stop) But he wont be able to run on Vian like he has everyone else.. Just my opinion, after watching Davis Saturday. Dont get me wrong Davis is a very good team, and they have earned the write to be where they are. I just think Vian has to many weapons on offense and defense.... Like I said JUST MY HONEST OPINION

[TWrightSr75]

Man you talk before the fact, after the fact, between the fact, beside the fact that you have no clue to what is the fact and what is fiction at times. Give me a break, you and your mighty water otters! Remember you can't see me neither:tongue:Have you ever seen Willy Wonka And The Chocolate Factory,yall have some of those lil Oompa-Loompas.

[Ground_Attack]

everyone has forgotten what the topic is.. I was at the game saturday, it was one hell of a game. But the fact of the matter is that Davis is pretty much a 1 man offence. Granted he is a heck of a player, but I believe that when you shut him down Davis dont really have much. they do have speed but cant match up with Vian player for player. Davis is small and fast, but Vian is big and fast. I believe that will be the difference. Heneretta was big and slow.(over all) Davis cant run up the middle on Vian and Vians D-ends and L-backers will keep Mr. Black in check. I do think that he will get some yards, (he is to good to completely stop) But he wont be able to run on Vian like he has everyone else.. Just my opinion, after watching Davis Saturday. Dont get me wrong Davis is a very good team, and they have earned the write to be where they are. I just think Vian has to many weapons on offense and defense.... Like I said JUST MY HONEST OPINION

and that opinion is well stated and understood. I have no problem with that. I do have a problem with the garbage that gets thrown around with no reasoning or backing whatsoever. Smack is all that is and anyone can do that.

[CBRdrummer]

Why must you guys feed the troll over and over and over again? Is it THAT hard to be the bigger man?

[sequoyahcountyfan]

Hey TWrightSR75, I was a SR. in 75 at Vian and I dont remember a Wright in my sr. class.. I could be wrong(after all I am getting old now,HA HA) :confused:

[Ground_Attack]

Why must you guys feed the troll over and over and over again? Is it THAT hard to be the bigger man?

it isn't THAT hard, but you don't have to listen to him dogging your team.

[ltxc9y]

Have you ever seen Willy Wonka And The Chocolate Factory,yall have some of those lil Oompa-Loompas. Good movie, and come back, but just chill, and talk rational about this upcoming event instead of telling us all about these famous people coming and going that will have no impact what so ever on this game. I am sure that JC Watts will not be quarterbacking for either team, so what difference does his personal apperance have to do with this game?:confused:

[Ground_Attack]

you want rational?

[TWrightSr75]

Good movie, and come back, but just chill, and talk rational about this upcoming event instead of telling us all about these famous people coming and going that will have no impact what so ever on this game. I am sure that JC Watts will not be quarterbacking for either team, so what difference does his personal apperance have to do with this game?:confused:I didn't bring it up i was just joining in on the convo,i mean you don't ever see big time people in Vian unless something big's going down."They're just here for the party"!!!!!!!!!!!:thumbsup:

[President_Imposter]

Why must you guys feed the troll over and over and over again? Is it THAT hard to be the bigger man?

Have you seen the size of the Davis Wolves? If you have, then you know that it's very hard for them to be the "bigger man".

[ltxc9y]

I didn't bring it up i was just joining in on the convo,i mean you don't ever see big time people in Vian unless something big's going down."They're just here for the party"!!!!!!!!!!!:thumbsup: So by all the blah, blah you are stating about this team of yours surely he will attend to watch your team ripp our little guys arms off. What a show it will be. Whatever motormouth:spin:

[Ground_Attack]

Have you seen the size of the Davis Wolves? If you have, then you know that it's very hard for them to be the "bigger man".

clever. :rolleyes:

[ltxc9y]

Have you seen the size of the Davis Wolves? If you have, then you know that it's very hard for them to be the "bigger man". I'll have you know little George Bush III, it doesn't take a giant to play high school football, it is all in the technique. You will see, you will see:thumbsup: Besides you are starting to sound like motormouth now VIANS #1 FAN:thumbsup:

[sequoyahcountyfan]

I agree with drummer, just talk about the ball game to come!!!!! And dont get caught up in the bull****.. And im real sure that it is all in fun any way. Hes just trying to ruffle your feathers.. Just laugh about it and enjoy the confrontations... and have fun!!!!!!!!:thumbsup:

[CBRdrummer]

it isn't THAT hard, but you don't have to listen to him dogging your team.
Let me break this down...

no reply = nobody to argue with
nobody to argue with = no reason to post
no reason to post = no posting
no posting = happy Davis fans

It's pretty simple, really is... C'mon man, you're a moderator for pete's sake. I'm sure one of the reasons you were chosen to be a moderator is that they thought you'd be less likely to join in on one of these immature and mindless arguments.

[President_Imposter]

I'll have you know little George Bush III, it doesn't take a giant to play high school football, it is all in the technique. You will see, you will see:thumbsup: Besides you are starting to sound like motormouth now VIANS #1 FAN:thumbsup:

If I you were beside me, I'd punch you in the throat for calling me George Bush III. GW is one world leader I'd like to see trung up beside Saddam. Good, call me motormouth. I'm tired of being good anyways. Your technique won't stand a chance when we beat you off the line AND knock you on your little butts.

[President_Imposter]

Let me break this down...

no reply = nobody to argue with
nobody to argue with = no reason to post
no reason to post = no posting

It's pretty simple, really is... C'mon man, you're a moderator for pete's sake. I'm sure one of the reasons you were chosen to be a moderator is that they thought you'd be less likely to join in on one of these immature and mindless arguments.

C'mon, he's no better than we are.

[ltxc9y]

Let me break this down...

no reply = nobody to argue with
nobody to argue with = no reason to post
no reason to post = no posting

It's pretty simple, really is... C'mon man, you're a moderator for pete's sake. I'm sure one of the reasons you were chosen to be a moderator is that they thought you'd be less likely to join in on one of these immature and mindless arguments. Ok then what is there to talk about then, well the size of cleets that the boys will be wearing, or the song selection that the bands will play, or better yet where we will all eat afterwards. You tell me?:confused:

[Ground_Attack]

It's pretty simple, really is... C'mon man, you're a moderator for pete's sake. I'm sure one of the reasons you were chosen to be a moderator is that they thought you'd be less likely to join in on one of these immature and mindless arguments.

you know, being a moderator doesn't mean you have to take crap. I'm apparently not doing enough.

[TWrightSr75]

I think someones getting sleepy lil wolfy man,are you trying to stay up with The Mighty WOLVERINES!!!!!!!!!!I saw everything i need to know for Saturday.

[ltxc9y]

I think someones getting sleepy lil wolfy man,are you trying to stay up with The Mighty WOLVERINES!!!!!!!!!!I saw everything i need to know for Saturday.No you didn't.:thumbsup: Trust me:thumbsup:

[sequoyahcountyfan]

Well said Drummer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ground_Attack]

but you are right. I'm done with this thread.

[CBRdrummer]

You guys misunderstand me...If you do not want him to keep going, stop feeding him. If you are going to keep feeding him, stop complaining. There isn't a thing wrong with fun little conflicts, heck, it's why half of us are here, but this is just stupid.

[ltxc9y]

If I you were beside me, I'd punch you in the throat for calling me George Bush III. GW is one world leader I'd like to see trung up beside Saddam. Good, call me motormouth. I'm tired of being good anyways. Your technique won't stand a chance when we beat you off the line AND knock you on your little butts. If you were beside me you probably wouldn't punch me in the throat son. I am 6'2" 235lbs firefighter. I use to rescue little helpless turds like you from big bad situations. I know you meant that as a joke, but I didn't:thumbsup:

[President_Imposter]

If you were beside me you probably wouldn't punch me in the throat son. I am 6'2" 235lbs firefighter. I use to rescue little helpless turds like you from big bad situations. I know you meant that as a joke, but I didn't:thumbsup:

If you don't think I would, then you don't know me very well. "Size doesn't matter, it's all technique."

[ltxc9y]

If you don't think I would, then you don't know me very well. "Size doesn't matter, it's all technique." Good comeback, but I still am not kidding. :thumbsup:

[TWrightSr75]

Size does matter,trust me!!!!!!!!!!!!!:thumbsup:

[PBMAX24]

What Up Twright! We All Know What The Wolverines Have The Talent. Just As Much Or More Than Any One Team In Ok Hs Football This Year.. Any Team. These Boys Are Hungry. They Been Winning Since The 3rd Grade. Winning Alot Of Games Dont Mean Nothing To Them Anymore. They Want A Championship. They Let It Slip Away Last Year....... Lightning Wont Strike Twice In The Same Place. Let The Haters Hate.

[TWrightSr75]

That's what's up playboy,i'm just trying to shine amongst all this darkness.I know they already see the light tho.:thumbsup:

[oldschool]

Vian is the best team i have seen play this year, i enjoyed watching all their talent and wish nothing but the best for their TEAM, but there are people from vian that are getting a bad rep for the team bc or their ignorance and cockiness. this is high school football and its great to talk a little smack now and then but lets remember that you can never be to HUMBLE. There are alot of great players and teams in this state and i love debating my opinions on many of them always keeping in mind that im not always right, and that there is always going to be someone better somewhere sometime, I'm not trying to bash on anyone for having pride in their school but just a reminder that when you say something about a team its always going to come back on the team. Goodluck to all the remaining teams, they deserve it, they wouldnt be here if they didnt!

[GrandpaFootball]

I have watched this team play since they were in third grade, they work together as one....but even the best can crumble....a straight up ...no bs game....If ..and thats a big if.....Vian loses against Davis...no excuses..dont blame the refs, the turf ....maybe the better team won....we have all seen it before...sometimes the better team beats themselves before they even get on the feild.....

[President_Imposter]

Ah, the old man is wise.

[hsfootballnut]

i would think yall from vian would have learned your lesson last year.. Tonkawa rolled you in the semis last year with a much smaller team..

[wolffan]

You would think that would have humbled them a little bit but I guess not. I think a lot of the cockiness comes from insecurity, either that or they are just trying to convince themselves that it wont happen again when it very easily could. Vian was posting the same type of numbers last year and was thought to be invincible but found out they werent when they met a team with some talent. I know that was last year and your team is much improved but then again so is Davis. IF you guys beat Davis and yes I said IF, then good for you but your goal will still not be met. I havent seen you guys play but you like to put up huge numbers on the scoreboard just like you did a year ago but do not think you are gonna walk all over Davis and their "lil bitty" players. Davis being small is nothing new except to those who have never faced them and it gives those opponents a false sense of confidence. It is amazing to me some of the talk from you Vian fans on how you will dominate Davis when they are just as if not more dangerous than the Tonkawa team you lost to last season. Davis has not met an opponent as tough as Vian yet but then again Vian hasnt faced a Davis wishbone either!!

[President_Imposter]

Blah, Blah, Blah! All I heard was a bunch of referance to last year. Yeah, we lost. . . . .last year!

[TWrightSr75]

i would think yall from vian would have learned your lesson last year.. Tonkawa rolled you in the semis last year with a much smaller team..Tonkawa didn't roll anything.Anyway that was lasy year.

[ltxc9y]

Vian is the best team i have seen play this year, i enjoyed watching all their talent and wish nothing but the best for their TEAM, but there are people from vian that are getting a bad rep for the team bc or their ignorance and cockiness. this is high school football and its great to talk a little smack now and then but lets remember that you can never be to HUMBLE. There are alot of great players and teams in this state and i love debating my opinions on many of them always keeping in mind that im not always right, and that there is always going to be someone better somewhere sometime, I'm not trying to bash on anyone for having pride in their school but just a reminder that when you say something about a team its always going to come back on the team. Goodluck to all the remaining teams, they deserve it, they wouldnt be here if they didnt!Great comment sir, Like I have been telling motormouth "Anything can happen in a high school football game" Nuf said:thumbsup:

[ltxc9y]

i would think yall from vian would have learned your lesson last year.. Tonkawa rolled you in the semis last year with a much smaller team..OOPS! "Size doesn't matter". See there motormouth! It has already gotcha once in the past, so don't count your chickens before they hatch:thumbsup:

[StateChampQB]

Should be a good game that I'm very interested in seeing.Ofcourse you know I think the world of the Davis program and I did my student teaching at VA when Coach Tyler was there,great guy,great coach.Hope it's a classic!I'm ready for Saturday to get here,Old Germany,Davis-Vian then OU winning the Big 12.

[ltxc9y]

You would think that would have humbled them a little bit but I guess not. I think a lot of the cockiness comes from insecurity, either that or they are just trying to convince themselves that it wont happen again when it very easily could. Vian was posting the same type of numbers last year and was thought to be invincible but found out they werent when they met a team with some talent. I know that was last year and your team is much improved but then again so is Davis. IF you guys beat Davis and yes I said IF, then good for you but your goal will still not be met. I havent seen you guys play but you like to put up huge numbers on the scoreboard just like you did a year ago but do not think you are gonna walk all over Davis and their "lil bitty" players. Davis being small is nothing new except to those who have never faced them and it gives those opponents a false sense of confidence. It is amazing to me some of the talk from you Vian fans on how you will dominate Davis when they are just as if not more dangerous than the Tonkawa team you lost to last season. Davis has not met an opponent as tough as Vian yet but then again Vian hasnt faced a Davis wishbone either!!
VERY WELL SAID!!!!:thumbsup:

[StateChampQB]

Just curious!!!What defense does Vian run?

[Ground_Attack]

Just curious!!!What defense does Vian run?

an unstoppable one! :D

[Mmgord77]

I think they just have a linebacker... Albe. I'm pretty sure they just run a 1-defense.

[elk3730]

I love to watch Davis run the wishbone! Pawnee played them in 02, I believe. We beat Davis and that was saying something! Davis has always been a powerhouse in football. This should make for a great ballgame!

[Ground_Attack]

boy that was a heck of a game, wasn't it? your RB was everything he was billed to be and I thought we took you there at the end, but they couldn't hang on.

[elk3730]

#30 from Pawnee - Grant Jones. Signed with OSU. Senior this year :( . I believe Grant is leading the Big 12 in punt/kickoff returns. Yes, Grant was/is a STUD!

Also, his two younger bros (Gerald & Gerard) were outstanding. Good kids & great athletes.

That was one of the most exciting games I remember watching. We beat a GREAT Davis team!

[ltxc9y]

#30 from Pawnee - Grant Jones. Signed with OSU. Senior this year :( . I believe Grant is leading the Big 12 in punt/kickoff returns. Yes, Grant was/is a STUD!

Also, his two younger bros (Gerald & Gerard) were outstanding. Good kids & great athletes.

That was one of the most exciting games I remember watching. We beat a GREAT Davis team!Yes you did I might add. Pawnee was a great team also, and they have a great program there. Your continued success through the years proves that.:thumbsup:

[V1067]

The superintendent at Pawnee is a graduate of VIAN HIGH SCHOOL 1965!

[Ground_Attack]

no wonder Pawnee is so good ;) :D

[usncpovian78]

I would bet you that the Vian football team is way more disiciplined than some of the fans that I see posting here. Does anyone know if the game will be broadcast on the internet. I live in florida.:) :) :) :)

[ltxc9y]

I would bet you that the Vian football team is way more disiciplined than some of the fans that I see posting here. Does anyone know if the game will be broadcast on the internet. I live in florida.:) :) :) :)All I know is 92.7 KTRX out of Ardmore will be airing this game. Maybe you can find out if you can get it off the internet.Do you have Sirius Radio? You may be able to use it to get the game. I also think that Vian has a web-site that gives updates during the game.:)

[usncpovian78]

I have sirus radio. I will try to get that radio station also on the inernet. Thank you for your help. I played football with alot of the current woverines dads and uncle's, its just kind of special to listen to them play. You wolves arn't half bad. Good luck on Saturday. Retired Navy Chief.:o :o :o

[wolffan]

Hey wolffan looks, or sounds like you are giving up on the Wolves, or did I read that wrong.:headscratch:

Hey ltxc9y I definately would never give up on the Wolves, sorry it sounded like that. I am trying to be somewhat respectful toward the team and not let myself be influenced by some of the trash talking. Vian is a very worthy opponent who needs to act like they have been here before and show some class. I though it might just be a few of the fans but from what I was told, some of the team that was near the endzone showed no class in some of the obsceneties they were yelling to the Davis players. Davis should have and could have won that game by two or three touchdowns, I am glad they didn't because some people put a lot of stock in the scores against other opponents and that bodes well for Davis. I guess at this point Vian feels they cant lose to Davis so keep talking and feeding the motivation. Even if Vian wins I think they will be surprised at the fight Davis will give them and if we (Davis) win by 1 or lose by 30, I will be there proud to be a part of the Wolves cheer for the team and look forward to the next game whether its the following week or the following year.

[wolfette]

I though it might just be a few of the fans but from what I was told, some of the team that was near the endzone showed no class in some of the obsceneties they were yelling to the Davis players.

Yes, Wolffan, I was also told that some of the Vian players was yelling obscene things and telling them that they sucked when they went into the endzone and it makes me even prouder of our Wolves. You would never hear of them doing the same. They have too much class. That is SAD!!! :(

[usncpovian78]

What a rumor. It really is a good way to get your team fired up. What would be the purpose of Vian players disrespecting your team. That would be stupid. If the coach of vian found out about it, I am sure he would send those boys who did it for a lap or two. Did you get any numbers or names of the players? Or did your so called source maybe fib a little. By the way does your quarterback dance everytime he scores?:cool:

[wolffan]

No he doesnt dance every time he scores, It is easy to let your emotions affect your jusdgement and if the "rumor" is true then I could see some of it being provoked. I know the boys father and have heard that he is a very respectable young man so I have all the confindence that anything he does is for his own celebration and not to rub anyones face in anything. He and that whole team knows that every game could be your last. If a senior scores at this point in his career and wants to express his excitement then so be it but you can rest assured that they would not be yelling at another team like they were being done. By the way source is very reliable and credible.

[wolfette]

What a rumor. It really is a good way to get your team fired up. What would be the purpose of Vian players disrespecting your team. That would be stupid. If the coach of vian found out about it, I am sure he would send those boys who did it for a lap or two. Did you get any numbers or names of the players? Or did your so called source maybe fib a little. By the way does your quarterback dance everytime he scores?:cool:

It's not a rumor. It came straight from a few of our players and your right it probably did get them fired up. The purpose of the Vian players disrespecting our team is because they are insecure and yes, it was stupid and juvenile if you ask me and you did. If Weber heard of any of his players acting like that they better run to the cellar, forget the laps. No, since they were wearing their letter jackets and not their jersey's it was kinda hard to see what number they were and yes, Quentin does dance a lot. Excuse him if he gets a little excited when he scores. It wasn't just something new he started because he saw all the purple in the endzone. I don't care if you think it's a rumor or not. It happened.

[wolfette]

No he doesnt dance every time he scores, It is easy to let your emotions affect your jusdgement and if the "rumor" is true then I could see some of it being provoked. I know the boys father and have heard that he is a very respectable young man so I have all the confindence that anything he does is for his own celebration and not to rub anyones face in anything. He and that whole team knows that every game could be your last. If a senior scores at this point in his career and wants to express his excitement then so be it but you can rest assured that they would not be yelling at another team like they were being done. By the way source is very reliable and credible.

Preach it wolffan. :thumbsup:

[usncpovian78]

If the players were from this years team and they did what you said, I agree with you. But be sure that you know who you are talking about before you accuse players of disrespect. It could backfire and fire up the woverines. Dancing in the end zone is a penalty right?:confused:

[wolfette]

I think celebrating is only a penalty for college football and that taunting could backfire on them too. It must be okay because we've never been penalized for it. He's really a good kid.

[Ground_Attack]

sigh...these threads sure take a lot of detours.

[wolfette]

I know Ground Attack, they do. It's sooooooo hard not to defend my Wolves though. :p

[Ground_Attack]

don't worry about it Wolfette. It doesn't do any good. I'm not going to bother with it anymore. i prefer to just let the tradition and scoreboard do the talking :thumbsup:

[wolfette]

Okay. I'm with you. I'll bite my tongue from nowwww on... until TWright gets back on here. LOL j/k :pumpup: Good night Moderator......... I'm leaving before I get in any more trouble. :thumbsup:

[Ground_Attack]

there is no trouble here. ;)

[usncpovian78]

I like it when I get teamed up on. Dancing in the end zone is quite a tradition. I hope my wolverines have a little more class when they score. And I hope we score alot. And now I can say that this statement is enough and a moderater does not take sides:D :D :D :D

[Ground_Attack]

my job isn't to remain neutral. I'm not a judge. My job is to keep the forum under control. :rolleyes:

[scott_2o]

I am pretty sure that Dancing in the endzone is a penalty in highschool just like spiking the ball.

[Ground_Attack]

I'll preface by saying that I wasn't there so I have no firsthand knowledge, but the way I heard, it was more just head-bobbing than dancing. Either way, I don't care for it.

[wolffan]

I dont agree with the extra celebrations personally, but I would rather have one of my guys doing that then taunting with obscenities while not even in the game. Why werent they taunting Henryetta? Was it due to jealousy over the fact that Davis gets respect by most of the state or were they wanting to distract Davis because they were hoping to play Henryetta. I think its a little of both. Anyways I will take GA advice and restrain myself from useless debate. Go Wolves

[wolfette]

I am pretty sure that Dancing in the endzone is a penalty in highschool just like spiking the ball.

Scott, don't you think that if it was illegal he wouldn't do it? Besides, he isn't dancing. He is bobbing his head like this..... :headbanger: LOL!!!

[usncpovian78]

I bet you guys are just perfect gentlemen all the time. I hate hyprocrites. Football is fun , but it must be respected. Don't act like the davis team has never done anything wrong. How do you think the other team feels when they got some you know what prancing around the end zone like he knows somebody. Head bobing or talking trash is wrong. Bear Briant at Alabama said it best. Go out there and knock that guy on his behind: offer him your hand, after you pick him he will know you are going to do it all over again. :D :D

[wolffan]

I have never seen him"dancing", if its the head bobbing that people are referring to then how is that any different than getting excited and jumping up and down after a sack or anything else. Get over it and quit looking for little things to gripe about. Some people just want to hate those that are a threat to them and that is absolutely the case here. Davis is not a one man team. There is a lot of talent with heart on that team (trust me there is a difference than just plain talent). Just wait til #45 or #51 lays a load on you, it wont be pleasant. I know those boys dad and from talking to him I know they Love to HIT! I said that to say there is more than 1 thing to overcome to beat Davis.

[usncpovian78]

Good for you, now I know you are serious and hopefully done with that other junk. Bring it on Wolffan. Have a nice evening> Good Job.:D

[wolffan]

Good for you, now I know you are serious and hopefully done with that other junk. Bring it on Wolffan. Have a nice evening> Good Job.:D

Not sure what this post even means but I am ready none the less!!:thumbsup:

[Ground_Attack]

headbobbing doesn't equal dancing :rolleyes:

If he hasn't been called on it all year then it can't be too bad

[ltxc9y]

What a rumor. It really is a good way to get your team fired up. What would be the purpose of Vian players disrespecting your team. That would be stupid. If the coach of vian found out about it, I am sure he would send those boys who did it for a lap or two. Did you get any numbers or names of the players? Or did your so called source maybe fib a little. By the way does your quarterback dance everytime he scores?:cool: He doesn't dance but he does a head bob. I almost went down and sat in the endzone just to see if anything was going to be said, but I didn't. When the purple jackets started to arrive there were still seats in both sets of stands. I know how boys are , and I am sure that they were in the endzone for alternative motives. They knew that they had on their purple outfits, and they knew that Davis saw them, and whether or not they said anything, they knew that the Wolves noticed them. Otherwise they would have worn street clothes, and tried to blend in a little. I don't care what you say, but they were there to try and intimidate, whether they yelled at the Wolves or not. If they did yell at the wolves, that is not classy, and it will fire up the Wolves I can assure you:thumbsup: . I guess you could say that it might have backfired on the Vian boys. Just my two cents, nothing more.:thumbsup:

[Ground_Attack]

When the purple jackets started to arrive there were still seats in both sets of stands. I know how boys are , and I am sure that they were in the endzone for alternative motives. They knew that they had on their purple outfits, and they knew that Davis saw them, and whether or not they said anything, they knew that the Wolves noticed them. Otherwise they would have worn street clothes, and tried to blend in a little. I don't care what you say, but they were there to try and intimidate, whether they yelled at the Wolves or not. If they did yell at the wolves, that is not classy, and it will fire up the Wolves I can assure you:thumbsup: . I guess you could say that it might have backfired on the Vian boys. Just my two cents, nothing more.:thumbsup:

really not anything that any other team wouldn't do though. I would imagine the Wolves would do the same thing. Not a big deal at all in my opinion. They may have yelled something, they may not have. I would say not though. They'll be just as fired up as Davis.

[V_Town_Fan]

It's not a rumor. It came straight from a few of our players and your right it probably did get them fired up. The purpose of the Vian players disrespecting our team is because they are insecure and yes, it was stupid and juvenile if you ask me and you did. If Weber heard of any of his players acting like that they better run to the cellar, forget the laps. No, since they were wearing their letter jackets and not their jersey's it was kinda hard to see what number they were and yes, Quentin does dance a lot. Excuse him if he gets a little excited when he scores. It wasn't just something new he started because he saw all the purple in the endzone. I don't care if you think it's a rumor or not. It happened.
Just for your info...it couldnt have been players from this years team....because they havent gotten their letter jackets yet.

[wolffan]

So seniors and juniors on this years team doesnt have a letter jacket yet?

[CBRdrummer]

I also think that Vian has a web-site that gives updates during the game.:)

The Purple Pulse (www.vhsden.com) will be giving updates via text message to our forums.

PS: V-Town Fan is correct, no letter jackets yet, but I don't deny that there was a sea of purple ;).

[wolffan]

really not anything that any other team wouldn't do though. I would imagine the Wolves would do the same thing. Not a big deal at all in my opinion. They may have yelled something, they may not have. I would say not though. They'll be just as fired up as Davis.


I am going to have to disagree with you on this one GA. If it was obscenities then I dont think there are a lot of teams out there that would do that. They might cheer against them but I think the majority would just sit back and say nothing during the game. I do agree that it really isnt that big of deal because kids will be kids and yes they will be fired up if for no other reason they are getting a shot at the #1 team in 2A.

[Playrzmom]

I thought this thread was going to be Davs vs. Vian....you know, their stats vs. our stats...etc... As it turns out, all that's been said or discussed for the last little while is whether or not the Davis QB "dances" when he scores!! So let the boy dance!!! Now, on to the topic. Davis has played in many playoff games over the years, but so has Vian. We are excatlly where we were one year ago. The semi-finals! Davis is there too. That's good & not so unexpected, as they make the playoffs alot too. The Wolverines will give it all they have....I feel Davis will too. It won't be a slouchy ballgame. It in fact should be one best games of the year! I don't know if Vian has ever played Davis before. That in itself ought to make for a heck of a game. Both teams come from deep rooted tradition & obvious pride. So here's to...NO INJURIES on the field for either team!! Not everyone on this forum speaks for each other.....OKAY... After reading some of the "posts" I just thought that should be out there. lol:thumbsup:

[Ground_Attack]

ahhh...the voice of reason!

great post playerzmom! :thumbsup: :clap:

[Playrzmom]

Wow!!! What a busy day....& it's not Saturday YET!!! l

[TWrightSr75]

All these Davis fans talking about what they think happened,they were sitting on the eastside of the endzone they're just talking.I was in the sea of PURPLE and saw the lil qb score,look at us and shake his head.It's as simple as that and yea i said to the guys did you see that,they all saw it,everybody down there did.Nobody yelled any obscene words to kids,that's stupid.Even i wouldn't do anything like that.Davis fans just looking for a way to fire each other up,but not being respected as the real #1 is enough to have The Mighty Wolverines smelling blood!!!!!!!!!:mad:

[V_Town_Fan]

hey playrzmom check your pm

[Ground_Attack]

All these Davis fans talking about what they think happened,they were sitting on the eastside of the endzone they're just talking.I was in the sea of PURPLE and saw the lil qb score,look at us and shake his head.It's as simple as that and yea i said to the guys did you see that,they all saw it,everybody down there did.Nobody yelled any obscene words to kids,that's stupid.Even i wouldn't do anything like that.Davis fans just looking for a way to fire each other up,but not being respected as the real #1 is enough to have The Mighty Wolverines smelling blood!!!!!!!!!:mad:

did you even read my response to those statements.

[wolffan]

Hey TW dont worry so much about the #1 ranking dude, it means absolutely nothing just ask Chandler. People will remember who won the title not who was ranked #1 all year.

[wolffan]

All these Davis fans talking about what they think happened,they were sitting on the eastside of the endzone they're just talking.I was in the sea of PURPLE and saw the lil qb score,look at us and shake his head.It's as simple as that and yea i said to the guys did you see that,they all saw it,everybody down there did.Nobody yelled any obscene words to kids,that's stupid.Even i wouldn't do anything like that.Davis fans just looking for a way to fire each other up,but not being respected as the real #1 is enough to have The Mighty Wolverines smelling blood!!!!!!!!!:mad:


The majority of predictions I have seen has Vian picked to win by a few TD's. That sounds like plenty of respect to me. That just goes to show that ranking doesnt mean anything.

[Its Will]

This Game is going to be a great matchup, i think fans on both sides are overlooking both teams..but i assure you that neither teams actual players or coaches are overlooking nobody. as of my opinion, first im from vian, i saw the davis/henryetta game, great great game...im not being onesided but i truly think, vian will win the game in the second half..by a comfortable margin...not taking anything away from davis great team...ive seen alot of football, and havent seen, many teams like this vian team, but if the dont come to play, davis will put it on us.......good first half...final 40-19

[TWrightSr75]

The majority of predictions I have seen has Vian picked to win by a few TD's. That sounds like plenty of respect to me. That just goes to show that ranking doesnt mean anything.Vian has finally earned a lil respect by beating teams the way they have and seperating themselves from everyone else but that's not good enough.

[Ground_Attack]

The majority of predictions I have seen has Vian picked to win by a few TD's. That sounds like plenty of respect to me. That just goes to show that ranking doesnt mean anything.

those are just haters :D ;)

[Ground_Attack]

This Game is going to be a great matchup, i think fans on both sides are overlooking both teams..but i assure you that neither teams actual players or coaches are overlooking nobody. as of my opinion, first im from vian, i saw the davis/henryetta game, great great game...im not being onesided but i truly think, vian will win the game in the second half..by a comfortable margin...not taking anything away from davis great team...ive seen alot of football, and havent seen, many teams like this vian team, but if the dont come to play, davis will put it on us.......good first half...final 40-19

I don't think I've seen ONE davis fan looking past Vian. point it it to me if you see it.

[Playrzmom]

I think if either team is having to be fired up this late in the season there could be trouble. Both of them should be fired up & ready to go just purely because they are one of the last 4 teams to be playing. People were really quick last year to tell us that Vian had another thing coming if they thought they were going to dominate in 2-A like they did in A class. We don't hear much from those people anymore....That's a good thing<<Martha Stewart>> I don't know if she knows anything about football. Hmmmm.?:cool:

[wolffan]

This Game is going to be a great matchup, i think fans on both sides are overlooking both teams..but i assure you that neither teams actual players or coaches are overlooking nobody. as of my opinion, first im from vian, i saw the davis/henryetta game, great great game...im not being onesided but i truly think, vian will win the game in the second half..by a comfortable margin...not taking anything away from davis great team...ive seen alot of football, and havent seen, many teams like this vian team, but if the dont come to play, davis will put it on us.......good first half...final 40-19


Not sure where you got this one from. I am with GA on this one. I cant imagine anyone overlooking Vian. I feel the same about Davis, I guess thats why I get a little defensive when I hear people saying "we watched the Henryetta game, Davis wasnt impressive" There were things in that game that a lot of us are not aware of. I have said it before Davis should have won that game by two or three td's. Some games just go that way. You do not go 13-0 by being overrated. I think 3 of the 4 teams left are definately the top 3 in the class. I think Spiro got hot at the right time. I feel there are better teams than Spiro who are out of it, but I do not feel there are any better teams than the other three. Spiro no disrespect intended, just an opinion.

[Playrzmom]

Not sure where you got this one from. I am with GA on this one. I cant imagine anyone overlooking Vian. I feel the same about Davis, I guess thats why I get a little defensive when I hear people saying "we watched the Henryetta game, Davis wasnt impressive" There were things in that game that a lot of us are not aware of. I have said it before Davis should have won that game by two or three td's. Some games just go that way. You do not go 13-0 by being overrated. I think 3 of the 4 teams left are definately the top 3 in the class. I think Spiro got hot at the right time. I feel there are better teams than Spiro who are out of it, but I do not feel there are any better teams than the other three. Spiro no disrespect intended, just an opinion.
I agree with that oppinion too. Absolutely no disrespect to Spiro....Wow when the tough got tough, they got tough too. I just think that the other three teams have the staying power that it takes. I could be wrong, & I will be the first to say it, but....lol

[ltxc9y]

Just for your info...it couldnt have been players from this years team....because they havent gotten their letter jackets yet.
All I know lady is there was a sea of purple in the north endzone Sat. Night, and the majority of them were teenagers. I ran into some of them in McDonalds afterwards, and they were talking about how good of a game that they had just watched.:thumbsup:

[wolffan]

Yea I think the other top 2A team lost to Millwood in the quarters. I think Chandler could handle Spiro. It doesnt matter since Millwood will end up in the title game either way. Again rankings do not matter but Millwood should be ranked #1 in 2A, there is no way you should drop when your only loss is to the 4A state champions (soon to be). Not to mention that Millwood could have easily won that game too.

[voice4hire]

I am posting a new topic that addresses something that was mentioned earlier on here. It has to do with the broadcast Saturday.

[wolfette]

Vian has finally earned a lil respect by beating teams the way they have and seperating themselves from everyone else but that's not good enough.

If your referring to the scores of the game by Vian "separating themselves", in MOST of our games except maybe two, our 3rd or 4th quarters were played by our 2nd and 3rd string. Our freshman QB even got to play. Had they left our 1st string in we probably would've ran the score up to 70 or even 80 pts so don't think the Mighty Wolverines are alllll alone at the top. It's not good enough because everyone else is down to earth. :tongue:

[TWrightSr75]

If your referring to the scores of the game by Vian "separating themselves", in MOST of our games except maybe two, our 3rd or 4th quarters were played by our 2nd and 3rd string. Our freshman QB even got to play. Had they left our 1st string in we probably would've ran the score up to 70 or even 80 pts so don't think the Mighty Wolverines are alllll alone at the top. It's not good enough because everyone else is down to earth. :tongue: Like i said before Vian has separated themselves not just scores,defense and margin of victory,along with more players with scores and big numbers.Did Davis sit starters against Heritage Hall,i know they played the whole game last week?Some people like to respond when a topic or comment strikes a nerve,you can take it as you will but i have the proof.Ask anyone that has been to a Vian game this year how long until the staters hit the sideline,i didn't the coaches run up the score.That's just how it's been usually by halftime.

[wildcat]

Davis too much tradition they will win this one by two touchdowns!

[Ground_Attack]

those are just stats. The only stats that matter are the W's and L's. I said over a week ago that I don't care if Davis wins the rest of their games by one point. One down, two to go. This isn't college. Stats are meaningless if you win.

[TWrightSr75]

Davis too much tradition they will win this one by two touchdowns!You don't know anything about Vians tradition,so to say tradition wins ball games sounds silly,check again and see what Davis is up against.Two touchdowns!!! Let me hit that dro with you.:eek:

[TWrightSr75]

those are just stats. The only stats that matter are the W's and L's. I said over a week ago that I don't care if Davis wins the rest of their games by one point. One down, two to go. This isn't college. Stats are meaningless if you win.Then why keep em?They don't mean anything except how scouts and college coaches keep up with players,it's just a waste of time.While we're at it get rid of the records too,they don't mean anything.If i recall correctly didn't you say those were some nice numbers,but only because Davis had more.I know if i say something about Vian haters always have something negative to say,it wouldn't bother me either way.

[Ground_Attack]

ummm yeah :rolleyes:

you know as well as I do that your stats against Mounds have no bearing on what happens the rest of the season. Sure they are kept as records and help scouts determine who to look at but get real. Does anyone remember the highest scoring team or the highest rushing team? No. They remember who wins it all. :cool: Nobody said that stats were a waste of time or meaningless...but if you put too much stock in them, you might end up looking silly. Ask the Baltimore Ravens of 00-01.

by the way, in response to an earlier question. No, the Davis starters didn't play the entire HH game. HH scored their last 2 TDs on the reserves.

[TWrightSr75]

ummm yeah :rolleyes:

you know as well as I do that your stats against Mounds have no bearing on what happens the rest of the season. Sure they are kept as records and help scouts determine who to look at but get real. Does anyone remember the highest scoring team or the highest rushing team? No. They remember who wins it all. :cool: Nobody said that stats were a waste of time or meaningless...but if you put too much stock in them, you might end up looking silly. Ask the Baltimore Ravens of 00-01.

by the way, in response to an earlier question. No, the Davis starters didn't play the entire HH game. HH scored their last 2 TDs on the reserves.Oh you mean the Ravens that held teams to about 10 pts per game.99% of the time Defense wins Championships,Vians D's only giving up 5pts per game.:thumbsup:

[Ground_Attack]

Oh you mean the Ravens that held teams to about 10 pts per game.99% of the time Defense wins Championships,Vians D's only giving up 5pts per game.:thumbsup:

I know the old adage, but you generally need to support that with an offense. My point is, gaudy stats don't always mean anything. Since you brought it up, are you implying that Vian's D is twice as good as the '00 Ravens? ;)

and you 99% stat is an immeasureable statistic. There is no way to support that claim other than saying that 100% of championship teams had a defense. :D I guess that means you were only 1% off eh?

[crogers32]

So seniors and juniors on this years team doesnt have a letter jacket yet?

No, they haven't. They are just fixing to order them for the seniors.

[Ground_Attack]

why the heck do the wait until its winter during their senior season. People rarely wear them after the go to college. What a waste of money.

[crogers32]

Well, actually I was wrong. They have already ordered them and they should come in pretty soon. You're right though GA it seems like they would order them earlier in the school year.

[voice4hire]

OK...I've been sitting here way too long to keep quiet any longer.

The arguing in this topic has degenerated to the 'screw you...no, screw you' method of arguing. Nobody's even talking about real Xs and Os any more. There has been the occasional post with some insightful analysis, but come on, folks. Let's put more imagination into it.

Vian has played some dominant football all season. They also have record holders. They have a lot of things that has translated into success this year. That's great and all, but it doesn't mean anything when the stars line up for this Saturday's Semifinal. You can play dominant games all year long and then get caught up in a game like last year's semifinal. You can have record-breakers but you can also break records on the low end as well as high. But when a vast majority of your players this season remember what that bitter taste is like from a year ago, then the chances of history repeating itself is very slim...especially with so many seniors playing every week in what could be their last game.

For Davis, they have played the season much like the Wolverines. They will bring an identical 13-0 record into Saturday's game, and they will bring the playoff pedigree into the contest. That's great and all as well, but tradition can carry you only so far. Yes, Davis football is almost synonymous with the playoffs...but generally speaking, on an individual basis (note what I say before jumping to the standby opinion-over-fact responses), tradition is just not as important to the average teenager in today's world. This is the honest truth of the matter. I'm not saying that the individuals that make up the Davis Wolves don't care about tradition...if that's what you think, then stop wearing your feelings on your shirt sleeve and re-evaluate what I'm saying here. The team as a whole knows the program is steeped in tradition. Even the individuals on the team are very aware of the traditional implications of going deep in the playoffs. The kicker is, tradition means more to those who have a stake in that tradition...what that means is, tradition will mean more to the seniors that have had a deep run in the playoffs more than the younger players who haven't been as big a part of the mystique. That's why the meaning of tradition is proportional to the actual playoff experience of the current team. The point is, tradition means less when you're in the moment, and way more 15-20 years down the road. Remember were talking about 15-18 year-old young men here. Very talented young men, but young men, nonetheless.

Now in regard to both teams. Both have identical records. Both have dominant running games. Both have so much going for them that the game oozes classic high school football before we ever get started. Enough of...the hearsay about who did what and to who else, who has gone to more playoffs, which player is most dominant, who has the better stats, who dances, who taunts, who cussed, and who leaned a certain way and farted. You folks can argue until you're blue in the face about all that stuff, but when it comes right down to it, two incredibly talented football teams are going to tune up, suit up, warm up, get jacked up, and then you can pull out one of the oldest cliches in the book: "You can throw the record book out the window." The game Saturday doesn't matter about records or stats, what matters is matchups. Period. That's the beauty of the playoff system at any level. The matchups determine what kind of game it's going to be, not records or rankings. Just ask Enid. They're playing Jenks in the 6A State Championship Saturday night. Think their 6-4 regular season record means anything at this point? Only insofar that it was good enough to get them into the playoffs. What matters in the Davis/Vian semi is simply how each player matches up to their counterpart on the other side of the line of scrimmage. It's going to start with the line and move outward. Whoever can match up the best against their opponent and execute better is going to win this game, and that is it. And trust me, folks, when I say that is not an oversimplification. Football coaches around the nation will tell you that football is running, blocking, tackling, passing, and catching. The rest are just more complicated ways of combining those five characteristics.

Now I know I said some unpopular things...I'm in the media; by default, I'm already unpopular. But I know what I'm talking about. Records and stats give you a general idea of a player's capabilities. That's all. When it comes down to it, you still have to play the game. That's why simulating games on NCAA Football Two-thousand whatever or Madden Two-thousand whatever is stupid. That's why the premise of the new movie, "Rocky Balboa" (Rocky 6) is stupid. The whole movie is based around the current boxing champ being beaten in an EA Sports Fight Night simulation by the digital version of Rocky. Give me a break. When it comes down to it, video games, records and stats can't suit up and play the game for us. That's the job of the kids involved. And remember that come Saturday. These kids all deserve our respect. They have achieved well beyond most what the rest of us are capable. Here's a toast to an excellent game and to no injuries.

All the best,
Brad

[President_Imposter]

Wow! The perfect thing to be said. Kudos to Brad!

[skunkii37]

Very well said Mr. Venable!!!:clap:

[Ground_Attack]

i can't argue with any of that.

[President_Imposter]

Hehehe! Anyone who tries would be a fool.

[voice4hire]

Now I appreciate the sentiment, PI...but it's not about arguing. It's about refocusing discussion. I have no problem if somebody disagrees with my analysis. I just ask that throwaway, one line responses that have no base anywhere close to fact...please let those go the way of the dodo.

[V1067]

Thanks Brad. Everyone needed that. Both Vian and Davis have very very good football teams. If one of the teams was SO much better than the other one this wouldn't be such a fantastic match up. The very fact that either team can win and it won't be an upset is the key reason there are more posts for this thread than any other.

[Ground_Attack]

lets close this thread and start another so nobody has to dig through 10 pages of crap!